{"id":641,"date":"2026-02-28T18:30:39","date_gmt":"2026-02-28T08:30:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/?p=641"},"modified":"2026-02-28T18:56:30","modified_gmt":"2026-02-28T08:56:30","slug":"the-divided-line","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/2026\/02\/28\/the-divided-line\/","title":{"rendered":"The Divided Line"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Plato\u2019s analogy in <em>Republic<\/em> 509<sup>d<\/sup>-511<sup>e<\/sup> can be summarised as follows.<\/span><\/p>\n<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%;\" border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Line segments<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">B<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">C<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">D<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Realm<\/span><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\" width=\"240\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Intelligible (\u03bd\u03bf\u03b7\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2) (509<sup>d<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\" width=\"240\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Visible (\u03bf\u03c1\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2) (509<sup>d<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Objects<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Forms (511<sup>c<\/sup>) \u2013 considered in their relationship to the Good.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">The First Principle of things. (511<sup>a, b<\/sup>)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">The unassumed.<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Forms \u2013 <em>NOT<\/em> considered in their relationship to the Good<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Assumptions, mathematical postulates. (510<sup>c<\/sup>-511<sup>b<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Living beings, plants, artificial things. (510<sup>a, e<\/sup>)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">Models, drawings of geometrical figures (510<sup>d, e<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u2018Images\u2019 of objects in C. Shadows, reflections, etc. (510<sup>a<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Operations<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">a. Derive First Principle from conclusions in B (511<sup>a, b<\/sup>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">b. From First Principle, draw conclusions for objects in B<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">a. Draw conclusions from assumptions (to be applied to objects of C?)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">b. Assumptions are taken for granted<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">c. Appeals made to sensibilia (in C)<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"120\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"120\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Operators<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Philosophers<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Mathematicians and other masters of \u03c4\u03b5\u03c7\u03bd\u03b1\u03b9<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[Scientists]<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Sophists, poets, artists<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Mental States<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Intelligence<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">(\u03bd\u03bf\u03b7\u03c3\u03b9\u03c2\/\u03bd\u03bf\u03c5\u03c2)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Intelligence)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(511<sup>a, b<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Thinking<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(\u03b4\u03b9\u03b1\u03bd\u03bf\u03b9\u03b1) (Reason)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(511<sup>a, b, d<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Perceptual Assurance<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(\u03c0\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03c2)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Belief)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(511<sup>d, e<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Conjecture<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(\u03b5\u03b9\u03ba\u03b1\u03c3\u03b9\u03b1)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Illusion)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(511<sup>d, e<\/sup>)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"120\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Status<\/span><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\" width=\"240\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Knowledge (\u03b5\u03c0\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03b7\u03bc\u03b7)<\/span><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\" width=\"240\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Opinion (\u03b4\u03bf\u03be\u03b1)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Just as the Line Segments are related A:B::C:D::A+B:C+D wrt length,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">so are the associated Objects related wrt \u2018genuineness\u2019\/\u2019reality\u2019 (\u03b1\u03bb\u03b7\u03b8\u03b5\u03b9\u03b1)<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\">and the Mental States (\u03c0\u03b1\u03b8\u03b7\u03bc\u03b1\u03c4\u03b1) wrt \u2018clarity\u2019 (\u03c3\u03b1\u03c6\u03b7\u03bd\u03b5\u03b9\u03b1)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Note that whereas the construction Plato gives actually forces B=C, he makes no reference to that and we must assume that it is irrelevant to the analogy.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Plato\u2019s analogy in Republic 509d-511e can be summarised as follows. Line segments A B C D Realm Intelligible (\u03bd\u03bf\u03b7\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2) (509d) Visible (\u03bf\u03c1\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2) (509d) Objects Forms (511c) \u2013 considered in their relationship to the Good. The First Principle of things. (511a, b) The unassumed. Forms \u2013 NOT considered in their relationship to the Good Assumptions, mathematical [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-641","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-philosophy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/641","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=641"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/641\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":645,"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/641\/revisions\/645"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=641"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=641"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stevewatson.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=641"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}